Yesterday I posted two hands from live 1-2 NLHE at the Venetian where the Hero (Yours Truly) found himself in a sticky situation. To refresh:
Hand No. 1
Villian is a tight regular from the now mostly defunct Mirage 10-20 FLHE game. He is sitting 1-2 NLHE while he waits for a seat at 8-16 FLHE. We both have about $400; nobody else has more than $200. He raises two limpers to $15. I have the button and AsKc. I call; both limpers calls for a $60 pot. The flop comes down K-8-2, three suits. Checks to Villain who bets $50. Action is now on me.
Hand No. 2
Villian has been at the table 30-45 minutes. Seems to know what he's doing but hasn't opened for a raise yet. He has about $220, nobody else at the table has more than $150 except me (about $400). Villian raises one limper to $15. I have the button and TsTc. I call; limper calls also for a $45 pot. The flop comes down 9c-4c-4s. Checks to Villain who bets $40. Action is now on me.
The question was, given each the hand has been played to this point, what should I do? I specifically instructed commenters to avoid discussion of pre-flop play, though I note that a few couldn't resist. I'll therefore address that later. But first the flop actions.
For
Hand No. 1, only 4 of the 14 commenters who suggested an action said they would raise. The other 10 were in favor of calling. Looking back on it, I am in favor of calling as well. The reasons why: (1) this particular Villain's PFR raise is narrow and he is a very straightforward player; (2) the board has no draw on it; (3) most live 1-2 NLHE players at the Venetian, as bad as they are, won't chase a naked eight for $50, rightly or wrongly; and (4) I have position. With no draws on the board, calling behind the PFR is likely to slow him down unless he has AK/KK/AA. This Villain would only fire again on the turn with one of those three hands (*perhaps* KQ, but I'm not sure if it's in his PFR range at a NLHE table). If he fires again, I can fold with the realization that sometimes I am folding to AK. If he checks, I can fire with impunity.
As played, I raised to $120. Remember, we're both about $400 deep. Both limpers folded, and then Villain re-raised to something stupid ($200? $250? whatever). I said to him, "Respect", flashed my AK and mucked. He responded, "That seems reasonable," and showed AA.
The responses to
Hand No. 2 were a bit more uniform. 11 people said raise, 1 said call, 1 said "raise or fold" depending on the read, and
Waffles punted on giving any answer at all (well played, Waffles). To be honest, I'm still not sure about this one. The problem with calling is that too many cards are potential scare cards on the turn -- if any A, K, Q or J comes, what do I do? Calling also makes it look like I'm drawing clubs, inducing Villian to ship all non-club turn cards whether he's ahead or not. I suppose if a club hits I can represent it but then I'm just turning my hand into a bluff.
On the other hand, TT is essentially top pair -- just barely above the board, but behind any pair Villian is likely to hold. It's also unlikely Villian is holding a nine or a four. Am I really prepared to go to the felt with just top pair here for 100 BBs?
As played, I raised to $100. He shipped for $200. I agonized about the decision but folded, theorizing that given Villlain's tight play to that point he was unlikely to ship $200 with a draw like AcKc. More likely I was behind a big pair.
AS FOR PRE-FLOP: at least three people said I should three-bet pre-flop. Sometimes I do. But one of the things that
CK has repeatedly drilled into my head about Vegas 1-2, and that I have found to be true, is this: the vast majority of players are terrible and play very straightforward poker -- but they'll also call lots of pre-flop raises. [Case in point: CK related a story the other day of being so card-dead for hours that she was sure her image was that of a rock, but her re-raise to $30 with AA still got 2 callers!]
Given that I've found this statement to be true, I will sometimes play hands a little more slowly pre-flop. Doing so allows me to retain some control over the size of the pot and also requires my opponents to make more post-flop decisions -- a place where I feel my skill edge over them is even bigger than it is pre-flop. It may be the +EV play to 3-bet TT on the button pre-flop, but when both opponents call my hand is going to be just as tricky to play with a pot now wildly out of control.
Remember, these games don't play like games do online. Online, I'd probably three-bet both hands (esp. with the button) almost all of the time. Live, sometimes I do and sometimes I don't. The downside risk of not three-betting preflop is that once in a while -- or twice in a week -- I'll find myself venturing out into No Man's Land and will have to make some tough decisions.
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